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Post by FairyTaleArista on Jun 27, 2015 7:14:36 GMT -6
Here is a thread where we can discus the series by Bryan Davis, as well as its sequel series, Oracles of Fire and Children of the Bard (which I haven't actually read yet, but I need to.) They are among my favorite fantasy series, mostly because they kinda remind me of a plot idea of my own (which is a good deal of the reason I read them) and also because they have King Arthur in them, and Arthur's cool. Has anyone else read them? What do you think?
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Post by BladeSpinnerRae on Jun 27, 2015 7:24:54 GMT -6
I started the first one in the series some time ago, but wasn't able to finish due to review books needing to be read. But I take it they are books well-worth returning to?
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Post by FairyTaleArista on Jun 27, 2015 7:26:13 GMT -6
Yes they are. The first book is a bit awkward, but it picks up steam. They do get weird as the series progresses, but I like the weird and I quite enjoyed them.
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Post by BladeSpinnerRae on Jun 27, 2015 7:28:41 GMT -6
Okay, cool. Thanks for letting me know. Thankfully I own the first series, so I can pick them up when I've got free time (what in the world is that when it's at home?! Or when it comes to reading...)
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Post by FairyTaleArista on Jun 27, 2015 7:32:29 GMT -6
Heh, heh. I feel you. I had to ILL the books after "Candlestone," though I discovered that the kindle that a friend gave me contained the second book of the second series, so I was able to read that one without the agonizing wait.
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Post by BladeSpinnerRae on Jun 27, 2015 7:34:03 GMT -6
Ooh, how nice! Do you read mainly on your Kindle, or print books? It's print for me. I have a Kindle, but I prefer print.
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Post by FairyTaleArista on Jun 27, 2015 8:15:36 GMT -6
I go back and forth. This year I've mostly read print books for some reason, but last year was a kindle year. It depends on my mood.
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Post by EvilAuthorAddyson on Jun 27, 2015 9:42:41 GMT -6
The Dragons in Our Midst series is awesome, as is Oracles of Fire. I, too, want to read Children of the Bard.
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Post by amandabeguerie on Jun 27, 2015 10:57:14 GMT -6
My friend gave me Raising Dragons and The Candlestone. I need to read them. They look interesting.
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Post by FairyTaleArista on Jun 27, 2015 12:13:09 GMT -6
Read them Amanda. They are awesome.
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Post by Athelas on Jun 29, 2015 17:01:21 GMT -6
To be honest, I have mixed feelings about the DioM Storyworld. I love the first series, and the second one (in fact, I'm actually reading Raising Dragons aloud to my little sisters, and re-reading The Eye of the Oracle right now)... but right about when the third one hits, I start to like it... a lot less. In fact, I would caution all of the fans to not read the third series, and to pretend it never happened.
The first two series', though--! The Dragons in our Midst series might have been a little awkwardly written at times, but the complexity of the story and the heart behind the storytelling make up for it, and then make the books great. The Oracles of Fire stories are amazing all around: the heart behind the storytelling is still there, but the stories are greater, bigger, spanning more time and more characters. Their both epic, but so close to home that you could almost expect to step out your back door and see Hartanna apologizing for trampling your garden.
And, of course, there is one thing that simply must be mentioned here...
*levels everyone with a stare*
How many of you know The Fish Joke?
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Post by EvilAuthorAddyson on Jun 30, 2015 12:17:09 GMT -6
I keep hearing how the Children of the Bard isn't good, but I haven't heard what's not good about it and I'd really like to know. There aren't any bad reviews on Amazon so I'm still not sure what's not so good about the Children of the Bard series.
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Post by katiegrace on Jul 1, 2015 9:08:42 GMT -6
To be honest, I have mixed feelings about the DioM Storyworld. I love the first series, and the second one (in fact, I'm actually reading Raising Dragons aloud to my little sisters, and re-reading The Eye of the Oracle right now)... but right about when the third one hits, I start to like it... a lot less. In fact, I would caution all of the fans to not read the third series, and to pretend it never happened. The first two series', though--! The Dragons in our Midst series might have been a little awkwardly written at times, but the complexity of the story and the heart behind the storytelling make up for it, and then make the books great. The Oracles of Fire stories are amazing all around: the heart behind the storytelling is still there, but the stories are greater, bigger, spanning more time and more characters. Their both epic, but so close to home that you could almost expect to step out your back door and see Hartanna apologizing for trampling your garden. And, of course, there is one thing that simply must be mentioned here... *levels everyone with a stare* How many of you know The Fish Joke? *starts panicking because she cannot remember The Fish Joke*
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Post by FaithSong on Jul 2, 2015 16:34:02 GMT -6
I like The Candlestone best of the DiOM books. I haven't read all of the Oracles of Fire books yet, but they're pretty awesome.
I know The Fish Joke! Want me to remind you all?
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Post by FairyTaleArista on Jul 4, 2015 18:38:10 GMT -6
Yes, please do. For the life of me, I'm not remembering it. (And I had to ILL all the books past CANDLESTONE, so I can't consult.) It has to do with Walter, doesn't it?
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Post by FaithSong on Jul 6, 2015 13:50:46 GMT -6
Yeah. Walter was reading a comic book (or magazine... I don't remember...) and found the joke very funny (it wasn't). He never actually got around to saying it in the book, but Bryan Davis told us what it was. xD I don't remember the exact wording, but this is basically what it was: Once there was a fish who liked to play golf, see, and one day he plopped up onto the seventh green. This golfer saw teh fish and thought he'd found an easy dinner, so he picked him up and hung him on his golf cart while he kept playing. And this fish called, "Help! I'm drying!" ANd the golfer took pity on him and threw him back into the pond. When the golfer's friend asked him why he had done it, the golfer said, "I have bigger fish to dry." ... I told you it wasn't funny.
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Post by FairyTaleArista on Jul 6, 2015 16:26:32 GMT -6
Aha. Hence why I can't remember it. I've not really been to Davis' website. Walter and I have a similar sense of humor. I found that pretty funny.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2016 15:10:51 GMT -6
I have read the fist series, to me it was kind of wired and a little strange. Has anyone else had that? (Spoilers) I mean the mom had a kid with a dragon yea that was wired. And I also read another book by him in which a girl spirit was possessing other girls bodies and even possessing guy bodies .
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Post by FairyTaleArista on Jan 17, 2016 9:31:48 GMT -6
I read it for the half-dragons - I'm writing a book with a similar premise (dragon-human intermarriage because the dragons are trapped in human form), and I wanted to see how Davis handled it, and I thought he handled it quite well.
But, then, I love weird books.
Haven't read his other series. Tried Starlighter, but haven't managed to get into it.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2016 12:23:06 GMT -6
it just kinda reminds me of bestiality because they are still dragons on the inside, they just have human flesh over there dragon flesh. that is why there children are half dragon half human
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Post by FairyTaleArista on Jan 18, 2016 12:42:55 GMT -6
But the Dragons are intelligent creatures with souls. Is it any worse than any sort of cross-breeds between humanoid creatures? (Elf and human, say? Or Ryrik and human... Crete and Human)
If the characters were to intermarry with dragons that are unintelligent beasts, then I'd take issue, but these dragons have souls. They're not beasts, it's not bestiality.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2016 13:03:51 GMT -6
well in my opinion (I am not trying to change you view on the book, I did like I just though some aspects of I where weird) with Elf's, Ryrik's, Crete's, they still are humanoid. Dragons are not humanoid in any way. they walk on all fours, have a large body, big head full of sharp teeth, they have wings, they breath fire, they have tails. I know that they have souls like humans but that still does not make them human. Their physical makeup is way different from that of a Elf or Ryrik. The Elf, Ryrik, Dwarf, Crete hey all are all human, with different characteristics that became prominent in their DNA. I just thing it's kind of weird anyway you put it. Now getting the powers of a dragon is something totally different, and I am okay with that.
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Post by FairyTaleArista on Jan 18, 2016 16:25:42 GMT -6
But the dragons were given human DNA and special dispensation to intermarry with humans. As I've said, I've been working on a book with the same premise (dragon-human intermarriage), so I'd already worked through the ramifications. And, to be honest, cross-breeds are actually a rarity in my writing. (With the exception of the Mikida series my sister and I are writing, and that's complicated.) Because the DNA isn't necessarily the same - especially if it's stated that the races were created independently. Just because they have similar traits doesn't mean that the traits are governed by the same coding in the same locations on the DNA strand. Because the Dragons were given human DNA, I'm actually more fine with it than casual interbreeding because they look similar.
That's just my take on it, though. Agree to disagree?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2016 16:49:31 GMT -6
But then how would they become half dragon if the dragon was turn completely into a human? there would still have to be some fragment of Dragon DNA for them to even be a little bit dragon right?
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Post by FairyTaleArista on Jan 18, 2016 16:58:54 GMT -6
They had both dragon DNA and human DNA imposed on each other - it was explained in Candlestone. They were at the same time fully dragon and fully human. It wasn't until the last book that the dragon was removed.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2016 17:14:52 GMT -6
oh yea! duh I forgot about that part, but I still think it's kind of weird. but they I like other weird things
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