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Post by Brie D on Oct 31, 2015 18:50:30 GMT -6
I also was homeschooled. My parents reasons have changed and strengthened over the years. One reason is that they see our education as a God-given responsibility. I know it can be possible to do that with public schools but it is much more difficult. Also it means we are a closer knit family. My oldest brother started at a public school and then transitioned to a Christian school and we started homeschooling when I was one. I intend to homeschool my own children one day. I wouldn't dream of doing anything else. Especially as I really have no idea what goes on in school.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2015 19:17:18 GMT -6
shantellemary Dame Tashawna i actually use to tell my cousins that they where celebrating the brith of the devil on Halloween. But Shantell that is a great idea! I know i would go to that, but i would probably like it more in winter or fall because i get way to warm. I know homeschooling was a blessing for me, i know i have and still act like a punk. I think if i wasn't homeachooled it would have turned out more messed up then i already am. I think it was the Lords doing that i was, He knew what kind of person i am and what kinf of emotions i like, so He placed it on my perants harts to homeschool. Because it allowed them to work on the monster i am on the inside. And for that i am truly blessed.
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Post by Brie D on Oct 31, 2015 20:17:41 GMT -6
Yes. Sometimes I think I may have been a rather mixed up person if I'd had the influences of a public school.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2015 20:40:32 GMT -6
And again we arr not bashing public schools. I am just saying it wouldn't have been good for me
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Post by BladeSpinnerRae on Nov 1, 2015 5:18:11 GMT -6
We're a homeschooling family as well. I am SO thankful that I was homeschooled. The reason behind why my parents chose this route is pretty similar to what everyone else is saying - conviction. They felt it is their God-give right and duty, too, that as parents, God has instructed them to "train up your child in the way he should go, and he will not depart from it". It gives us the freedom to grow our relationship with Christ, without peer pressure, and some of the junk that does go on in some public schools. I am not bashing public schools, by any means, just explaining. Had I gone to public school, I think it would've "wrecked" me. I'm extremely introverted, and sometimes wonder if I wouldn't have rebelled if forced to be in the mainstream 'norm'. At home I was able to learn scholastics at my own pace, as well as grow in Christ more freely. I plan to homeschool my future children, too - Godwilling.
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Post by rayray on Nov 2, 2015 12:28:46 GMT -6
I have been homeschooled, but my bro goes to a private christian college prep school.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2015 9:59:58 GMT -6
Okay here is another question for you guess..
Should Christians believe in evolution as an alternative to Creation?
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Post by rayray on Nov 4, 2015 10:22:34 GMT -6
NO!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2015 10:29:03 GMT -6
Okay. Give me some examples as to why not. Then i will tell you what i think
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Post by rayray on Nov 4, 2015 11:39:36 GMT -6
Evolution is completely against the bible and everything God says. We as Christians should not consider it an option.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2015 14:05:08 GMT -6
That is right, but some 'Christians' may say "well how does believing in evolution mean I can't believe in God?"
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Post by Brie D on Nov 4, 2015 14:07:47 GMT -6
The Bible tells us how God made the world, so we ought to believe him. If the first Adam is an allegory, what about the last Adam (Christ)? How does he fit in? If some of the Bible isn't true which bits are?
Also there isn't any good scientific evidence for evolution.
ETA: You can believe in evolution and be saved. It just means you're confused.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2015 15:59:05 GMT -6
Well I would go as far to say that you cannot be a Christian and believe in evolution. why? Because if Geneses is invalid then all of scripture is, why? because the Bible is built upon Geneses 1:1. Imagine a house built on stone, Geneses is the stone upon which the scripture is built. In Geneses we find the creation of everything, the first sin, the fall of man, and the great flood. If you don't believe the first 10 verses of Geneses then you take away the stone upon which the house is built. Because if you take it away "God said" and put in "evolution" then you will have death before sin, when death is a result of sin. I can't do justice to what can be said about this. I would have to say Ken Ham has it nailed and I am still learning after all. But there is so much more to be said on the subject
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Post by rayray on Nov 4, 2015 16:14:42 GMT -6
Exactly!
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Post by Brie D on Nov 4, 2015 16:35:25 GMT -6
Many of the Creationist speakers I know were Christians before they were creationist. We are not told we have to believe every word of the Bible to be saved. We have to know that we are sinners and believe that Christ died to save us and to follow him. I agree that it doesn't make sense if you mess around with the foundations, but that just means you're inconsistent. I don't see why any one would believe in evolution though. Here's an article you may find interesting. I had to choose between rather a lot. There are thousand of articles on the site. creation.com/can-christians-believe-evolution
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2015 16:52:28 GMT -6
okay thanks Brie D I will look at it
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Post by rayray on Nov 5, 2015 17:38:44 GMT -6
What are your thought on election and pre-destination
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2015 17:49:32 GMT -6
my thoughts on election and pre-destination, I would love to give them (but I have college work to finish right now.) so can you define what you think 'election' and 'pre-destination' means?
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Post by Brie D on Nov 6, 2015 5:39:23 GMT -6
I think that the complexities of time and eternity mean that there can be both free will and predestination simultaneously. I could find some verses that speak of both together.
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Post by rayray on Nov 6, 2015 6:07:37 GMT -6
Yes I will define it. Election means that before the beginning of time, God chose certain people to become his children. Pre-destination is where you were pre-destined by God to go to heaven. I believe that you cannot read Ephesians 1 and believe pre-destination is not true.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2015 10:18:22 GMT -6
okay so there are two views on Election and Pre-Destination, and the two views are Arminianism and Calvinism (otherwise known as Reformed Theology). (oh and everything I say is like in a nut shell view) The Arminianism view says on Election that "God elected those whom He knew would believe of their own free will. Election is conditional, based on man's response in faith" and their view of Pre-Destination are along the same lines with of "God won't intentionally damn someone to hell, we have free will so WE are the ones to choose where we will end up"- the Arminianism views are based more off of "man can work is way". This view also downplays sin and total depravity. The Calvinism views on Election "God unconditionally, from eternity past, elected some to be saved. Election is not based on man's future response." their view of Pre-Destination are along the same lines in that it says why in that it states "God chooses who will be saved and who will not be, this is not a matter of our 'free will' but is a matter of God's choice, we may not fully understand this 'til we reach heaven."- the Calvinism views are more based on "God's a good savor and we are watched sinners". This view also firmly states the depravity of man and our out right rebellion from God. Now I lean with the Calvinism views on the subjects of election and pre-destination, why because it is really God who chooses who will be His and who will not. He knows the end from the beginning and know at which point people will (or will reject) His great love. I disagree with the Arminianism views because they try and put mans fate into his own hands, saying the it is really OWR choice wither we like or die, that we are not 'really bad' or that we can 'do good things' to help in our salvation, or that our salvation can be lost (which is clearly a miss reading of what the Bible says about it) so we have to keep doing good. A lot of charismatic people like the Arminianism views because it makes them a) feels good. b) gives them the control over there 'salvation'. There are more things wrong with this Arminianism/ charismatic views. But that can be left for another day
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Post by rayray on Nov 6, 2015 10:30:16 GMT -6
I agree with the Calvinism side as well.
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Post by Brie D on Nov 6, 2015 17:31:01 GMT -6
I think that there is both predestination and free will. I'm still having trouble finding some relevant verses but I found this interesting article: PDFI had another thought from a book I was reading. It had a prophecy in it that in some ways was rather detailed as to thing that would happen. Everything worked out amazingly, but people definitely had free will. (Well it seemed like it at least. I suppose they were actually completely controlled by the author. Did I just defeat my whole point?)
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Post by rayray on Nov 6, 2015 18:31:38 GMT -6
I disagree. By free will you mean that people choose where they will go?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2015 19:11:55 GMT -6
Brie D what do you mean by free will? like if it truly our choice or as in we are not mindless robots?
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Post by Brie D on Nov 6, 2015 19:12:34 GMT -6
Not exactly. I don't think that we can control where we end up, but that we have some kind of choice. I was mostly talking about life not salvation. We definitely can't save our selves.
ETA: We are certainly not mindless robots.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2015 19:19:04 GMT -6
oh, yea I think things like that we will never know this side of heaven hey that robot idea would have been a lot easier
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Post by Brie D on Nov 7, 2015 2:37:59 GMT -6
Can a mindless robot love? I think that's what God made us for.
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Post by rayray on Nov 7, 2015 6:13:44 GMT -6
Ok, than yes we do have free will. But no as in if we go to heaven right?
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Post by BladeSpinnerRae on Nov 7, 2015 6:27:04 GMT -6
My take on it all is that, as the Bible says, God would have no man perish in hell, that He desires all to be saved. But He also knows everything and therefore knows who will accept Him and who will push Him away to the very last point. If we have accepted Jesus as our Savior, we are going to heaven - but it's not of us, it's of God - He is the One to ready our hearts to let Him in. "But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us." 2 Corinthians 4:7 I don't really stand with either of the common views. I don't think this is a life-or-death matter; in the big picture, it's not up to us to know. Only God knows, and praise Him for that!
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