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Post by bourdongirl on Dec 12, 2015 16:48:41 GMT -6
In a good nor bad way? I'm not saying all characters should be tortured, but when they're captured, its cool seeing them make the kidnappers mad, even though they may be chained or something.
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Post by rayray on Dec 12, 2015 16:50:11 GMT -6
bad way.
Oh, that I do all the time, but I never do anything scary to them.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2015 17:02:15 GMT -6
BladeSpinnerRae we all need correction and to be 'fixed'. If we are not told when we are wrong then we will never grow/learn anything, and if we are never told than we will end up believing a heresy which will send a person to hell (now I am not trying to change the way you think and I am defiantly not trying to force you to do anything, I am just asking questions). With that being said I just want to ask one more thing. you say " Jesus observed Hanukkah" I don't remember reading that, so if you could tell me the book, and captures I would love to read about it ((oh and if you don't want to respond than that's fine, I know you said you didn't want to talk about it anymore))
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Post by rayray on Dec 12, 2015 17:04:27 GMT -6
I am not sure that is what she meant, and I agree with BladeSpinnerRae, if her family is called to something, then it is most certainly not our job to fix her, that and there is nothing wrong with it. I also think that we need to respect the fact that she doesn't want to talk about it anymore.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2015 17:08:55 GMT -6
now rayray that is one of my problems. I like violence, not senseless killing random people violence (or the stupide gore that does not make sense) but I like violence, thought as Christians we should not be into violence. Jesus was never violent, though he was the strongest person to ever live he was never violent
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Post by rayray on Dec 12, 2015 17:10:33 GMT -6
I like violence as well, though blood grosses me out. But hand to hand combat is awesome! I think that violence for the right reason is ok, but we should not be like "YEAH! PUNCH HIM!" for no reason.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2015 17:16:18 GMT -6
that is kind like me but I am like "YEAH! NNOCK HIS TEETH IN!"
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Post by rayray on Dec 12, 2015 17:16:54 GMT -6
Ew! I am more of a punch his face person!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2015 17:19:42 GMT -6
the more bloody the fight, the more I like it. That is way I like MMA, bloody fights are a promise
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Post by rayray on Dec 12, 2015 17:23:00 GMT -6
EEWWW!!!!! Blood in large amounts is so gross! I can't watch medical shows anymore. I do like it when someone gets a split lip though, and then it disappears a few minutes later.
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Post by Brie D on Dec 12, 2015 18:15:16 GMT -6
Aiden Hannukah is the Feast of Dedication, mentioned in John 10:22. To me the fact that it was okay for the Jews to add new feasts, means it would be okay for us to do it to, but enough of that. I don't like grafic violence. A little bit is okay, but having much seems to go against the whatever is lovely passage.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2015 18:25:53 GMT -6
oh okay Brie D thanks! I was wrong than. But did Jesus really take part in it? if I remember Jesus went to preach to them? well whatever I will stop now I promise. Yea violence goes against thinks that are good, lovely, holy, and that is why it is an area where I need to work on it
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Post by rayray on Dec 12, 2015 18:29:35 GMT -6
But there is such thing as a righteous violence, if you are say stopping a killer, would it be considered a sin to knock him out?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2015 18:47:22 GMT -6
well than it is not violence but self-defense or you are protecting someone else. But even than it can be taken to far
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Post by rayray on Dec 12, 2015 18:48:19 GMT -6
Well than I am only a self defense or protection kind of violence person.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2015 18:53:57 GMT -6
umm I don't think you fully understand what you are saying
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Post by rayray on Dec 12, 2015 18:56:37 GMT -6
Ok, I do, here it is in a much simpler way. If someone is doing something wrong, then I hope and cheer when someone punches them, but if it is for no reason, such as the person was just annoying, than I am not cheering for that, does that make sense?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2015 19:28:30 GMT -6
yea that is different. Say your protecting someone but instead of just stopping them you start you beat them, and still you persist in your attack, the person is knocked out but you continue to push forward. And you just keep counting that is when your protection becomes violent.
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Post by rayray on Dec 14, 2015 6:52:42 GMT -6
That is wrong though, and see I don't cheer for that.
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Post by LadyErika on Dec 14, 2015 9:03:51 GMT -6
It seems like we're having two different discussion here - violence in general, and violence depicted (in shows, movies, books, etc.). I won't address the first one for now - but on the second one, it has to do with what we're meditating on. (And by meditating on, I mean thinking about, dwelling on, letting our mind linger on). We should be meditating on whatever is true, honest, just, pure, lovely, of good report, full of virtue, and full of praise. (Phil. 3:8). We should be meditating on God's law/the Word of God day and night (Psalm 1, Joshua 1:8, Psalm 119). The question is - should we be meditating on something that is associated with evil, something that harms another person, something that spills the blood - the very life - of one God created, something that causes pain and suffering, something that is perhaps twisted and evil? Why choose to fill our minds with such things? The power of a movie is that it displays things that we may never be exposed to in real life. It exposes us to things that give people who have been exposed to it in real life lifelong shellshock, trauma, or psychological/mental/emotional struggles for the rest of their lives. Is that what I want to fill my mind with? Will that build me up or tear me down? Just some thoughts to ponder.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2015 9:16:14 GMT -6
That what i was trying to say, you said it way better than i did. But i was also trying to show Rayray that there is a difference between self-defense/protection than being a violent portecter
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Post by LadyErika on Dec 14, 2015 9:21:05 GMT -6
True. There is a difference. I think that hits more on the topic of violence in general, though it can also apply to movies/shows/books.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2015 9:28:15 GMT -6
I think it does also apply, because if we think in a certain way about violence then that way is transferred to our books, which than is read by someone else
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2015 11:41:07 GMT -6
Okay so I just got back from my local Family Christian book store, I was browsing the books (a lot of junk! I am telling you a worldly book store is better!)looking for something to read. I get to the kid section and I see a book, it's called Hit (blink) by Lorie Ann Grover and here is what the back says "After receiving a full-ride scholarship to Mills College for Girls, it appears Sarah's future is all laid out before her … that is until she walks into a poetry class led by Mr. Haddings, a student teacher from the nearby University of Washington. Suddenly, life on the UW campus seems very appealing, and Sarah finds herself using her poetry journal to subtly declare her feelings for Haddings. Convinced Mr. Haddings is flirting back, she sets off for school in the rain with a poem in her back pocket―one that will declare her feelings once and for all. Mr. Haddings has noticed Sarah's attention; the fallout from any perceived relationship with a student is too great a risk, and he has decided to end all speculation that morning. But everything changes when Mr. Haddings feels a thud on his front bumper when he glances away from the road, and finds Sarah in the street with blood pooling beneath her. " WHAT?! really? this book is in the kid section. Before I go on my rant let me know what you think.
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Post by rayray on Dec 14, 2015 13:15:54 GMT -6
Uhhhh, that sounds bad, stupid, and odd.
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Post by Brie D on Dec 14, 2015 14:52:44 GMT -6
Weird. Perhaps it was in the place accidentally?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2015 18:56:09 GMT -6
Well yets say it was meant to be in the young adults section. Does that stil sound like a book young girls should be reading?
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Post by rayray on Dec 14, 2015 19:58:16 GMT -6
I wouldn't read that! although it could have been mixed up.
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Post by Brie D on Dec 14, 2015 21:07:34 GMT -6
I agree, It's still weird.
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Post by BladeSpinnerRae on Dec 15, 2015 7:32:38 GMT -6
It's very disappointing what books are out there now-a-days. Christian fiction of any age group used to be safe, but now there is rarely a difference from secular books, and it really makes me sad. Though I don't think a normal bookstore is better than a Christian one. At least a Christian one attempts to be clean and safe to look at. God is so often only thrown into books as an after-thought, to qualify it as "Christian" because the authors are Christians. But He should be the focal point.
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