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Post by Aiden on Mar 30, 2016 12:56:39 GMT -6
like any animal
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Post by rayray on Mar 30, 2016 12:57:21 GMT -6
Oh, nope. We don't control animals, although we can train them to do things.
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Post by Aiden on Mar 30, 2016 12:58:56 GMT -6
so can we train a shake? or a bear? or a tiger?
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Post by rayray on Mar 30, 2016 12:59:32 GMT -6
Yup.
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Post by Aiden on Mar 30, 2016 13:02:39 GMT -6
woohooo! *jumps into the ocean* come here shakey shakey!
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Post by rayray on Mar 30, 2016 13:07:04 GMT -6
There are trained sharks at aquariums and such.
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Post by Aiden on Mar 31, 2016 9:05:39 GMT -6
okay so I want to ask this question, but before I do I want to say that from this point on this is a New Aiden, I will try my very hardest to not sound pushy, or like your talking to a brick wall. If I offended anyone I do apologize for it, and I'll try not to do that anymore.
okay with that being said I wanted to ask this. Do you think someone from another religion could ever enter Heaven, even if they believed in the wrong Jesus?
or we could try this one.
Can we, or should we, judge actors and actresses that clam to be Christian?
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Post by Brie D on Apr 1, 2016 4:52:47 GMT -6
Well we aren't saved by just 'believing in Jesus' unless that mean we believe that he is God and he died and rose again to save us from sin. If someone doesn't believe that and also follow him then I don't think they would be saved.
As for the second one it depends of what you mean by 'judge'. If you define that clearly we might be able to give our thoughts easier.
(despite swapping to a silly name I can't act silly.)
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Post by Aiden on Apr 1, 2016 10:36:28 GMT -6
So then like if a Catholic died they would go to heaven? they believe in Jesus, and that he died and rose.
Well just like looking at their actions, what they say, what they start in. And judge them according to what the Bible says
(Well to be silly all yea have to do is let coherent thought take a back sit as randomness takes the wheel, oh and a dancing money sure helps)
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Post by Brie D on Apr 1, 2016 14:35:16 GMT -6
I am pretty certain that some Catholics are Christians. Some of them truly love the Lord and follow him the best they know. It was almost the only church for hundred of years after all. I wouldn't say that Catholics believe in a different Jesus. It's usually the stuff surrounding him they have wrong. And then I don't really know what most Catholics believe.
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Post by Aiden on Apr 1, 2016 16:04:59 GMT -6
Interesting.. Okay I'll give you a little background about that Catholics believe. They Believe that Mary is a virgin and that Jesus was her only son. They Also believe that Peter was the first pope. They also believe that in communion the bread and drink are turned into Jesus's actually blood and flesh. They also believe that the Pope is this just as holy as Jesus. And if you need forgiveness you tell the Pope or a Father who will tell you to pray some certain prayers a certain amount of times then, or you can pay for forgiveness by work righteousness. There are more stuff they also believe that is contrary to what the Bible says. Like Purgatory, if you where not enough to enter heaven you work your way there by staying there until you have paid in time, then you can go into heaven
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Post by Brie D on Apr 2, 2016 2:32:48 GMT -6
I'd be surprised all Catholics actually believe that. In general yes, but we don't know the hearts of every single person. In a group there is always a diversity of beliefs.
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Post by Aiden on Apr 2, 2016 10:29:24 GMT -6
oh I forgot to say how they also altered the bible. And how they pray to idols and the Pope. Also they don't believe in praying to God. And the only one who can really read the bible is the Pope or the Mass leader (who they call Father) Now I don't believe a good Catholic can enter heaven, maybe a really bad one, but not a good Catholic. And I believe this because of what they believe, because what they believe goes against what the bible says. As for them being the oldest church that is not 100% accurate. Do you remember the Crusades? that was before Christianity and Catholicism separated. They where all just called Christians
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Post by Aiden on Apr 8, 2016 11:47:37 GMT -6
Remember that conversation we had about Christian rebellion? Like Christians being rebels?
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Post by ninjaserena on Apr 20, 2016 18:55:23 GMT -6
I do not know much about Catholics, but don't you think that if they believe that Jesus died for them they would go to Heaven? That is the only way to Heaven. Although if they worship Mary then i don't know. I am not very wise about this kind of stuff.
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Post by Aiden on Apr 20, 2016 20:05:06 GMT -6
Well it would depend on if they have the right Jesus, not a Jesus they fashion for themselves(thou shall not made a god onto they self). The Mormons also believe in Jesus (as the brother of satan). the Muslims also believe in Jesus. Many religions calm to believe in Jesus but when you examine who they think Jesus is. And what they practice and how it is contrary to what Jesus taught. You find out they are talking about a very different Jesus. And therefore Jesus will tell them "depart from me, I never knew you"
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Post by ninjaserena on Apr 21, 2016 13:27:20 GMT -6
Hmmmm....Yes i see.
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Post by Aiden on Apr 21, 2016 13:28:06 GMT -6
so it makes sense?
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Post by Aiden on May 3, 2016 20:43:11 GMT -6
Okay so do you think it's okay for Christians to run a rebellion to overthrow a king or some other fighter? in other words can I Christian be a Rebel?
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Post by kantibshra on May 4, 2016 3:10:09 GMT -6
It depends whether the ruler is following the law. All rulers or leaders should have rules the must abide by.
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Post by Aiden on May 4, 2016 10:57:13 GMT -6
So if a Ruler.. Lets say... decides he doesn't like Christians anymore and makes a law that they can't worship anymore. Is it okay to form a rebellion to overthrow the Ruler?
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Post by kantibshra on May 4, 2016 17:32:07 GMT -6
One does not need to overthrow the lawmaker to not follow the law.
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Post by Brie D on May 5, 2016 2:50:30 GMT -6
The early Christians did not try to overthrow Rome. Rome did end up controlled by Christians eventually though.
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Post by Aiden on May 5, 2016 10:55:55 GMT -6
so then would you say that it is a contradiction for a Christian to form and lead a rebellion?
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Post by Dame Tashawna on May 5, 2016 15:22:19 GMT -6
I don't think it's a contradiction. It happened in the Old Testament. It would depend if it was God's will or not.
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Post by Aiden on May 5, 2016 15:31:19 GMT -6
when in the Old Testament?
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Post by Dame Tashawna on May 5, 2016 20:15:42 GMT -6
Like in the Promised Land, when they had to defeat the bad people living there. Although that wasn't a rebellion.
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Post by kantibshra on May 6, 2016 5:50:32 GMT -6
Many times later the Israelites had to rise up and defeat oppressing nations, these events are mostly recorded in the book of Judges.
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Post by Aiden on May 6, 2016 10:22:52 GMT -6
Interesting. See I don't think a Christian can be a revolutionary (or to form any kind of rebellion to over throw the Ruling Authority). Here are verses to back up my clam. Romans 13:1-2, 1 & 2 Peter, Matthew 5:38-42 and Jesus Himself (I could kind of use John 18:36). It is made pretty clear that we are Christians (or little Christ) that even if a Ruling Authority is really bad, and does evil things, that we are not supposed to try and over throw them. I used 1 & 2 Peter because they where books written to fellow Christians who where being killed for their faith, but in the books you won't find a verse that give any sort of permission to rebel against the Ruling Authority that is doing the persecution. So to say someone is a Christian and a Revolutionary/Rebel Leader is a contradiction, Beucase one cannot follow Christ and be a Rebel
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Post by kantibshra on May 12, 2016 4:10:14 GMT -6
I agree with you on rebellion, but there are times when a ruler brakes the rules it is the peoples' duty to bring them to account. The story of the Magna Carta is an example that comes to mind.
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